FRETZ

Information recorded in the family Bible of John Edward Guthrie and Mary Ellet Fretz. It was then worked back as far as conveniently possible at this time and forward to the present. Most information has been proved and the compiler has a supply of information in a personal file in her possession which I will share if anyone desires to contact me. I have tried to collect information on other branches of this family tree, but mostly it concerns my direct line, John Edward Guthrie and Mary Ellet Fretz being my grandparents. ALBERTA IOLA GUTHRIE (COVEY) 1986 Alberta has passed on, but she left her family a living memory of her family. One of her books is in the possession of Mauri Davenport Gandy - Great granddaughter to John Edward Guthrie & Mary Ellet Fretz. maurigandy@yahoo.com

WIFE
MARY E. FRETZ
Born: August 28, 1866, Rockland Township, Venango County, PA.
Died: January 17, 1938, Stockville, NE. Mary Ellet Fretz may be Mary Elliott Fretz according to her son, Jesse V.

Married: JOHN EDWARD GUTHRIE
Born: December 1, 1861, Warren County, Iowa Moved with parents to Custer County, NE. in 1878. After marriage, homesteaded the home place.
Married: December 27, 1885 at Round Park in Valley County, NE.
Died: September 23, 1933, Stockville, NE.
He was a farmer and member of Christian Church. He and his wife joined in 1892. They moved to Frontier County in 1901 by covered wagon.

The name " Ellet" may have been "Elliott" some older family members believe this may have been a misspelling in the old family Bible. There are Elliotts listed in the census records along with Ftetz and Smith but here again no records available to make a connection. Edwin and Bessie raised six children: Obituary Mary ELLET Guthrie Mary E. Guthrie was born in Venango Co.Penn. Aug.28,I866 and passed away at her home near Stockville, Nebr. Jan. I7, I938 at the age of 7I years, 4 Mos. and 20 days. She moved with her parents to Valley Co. Nebr. In March of I883. On Dec. 27, I885 she was united in marriage to John Edward Guthrie She leaves to mourn her passing; eight children, William Edwin of McCook, Leland Archie, of Indianola, Rolland Albert of North Platte Omer Kem and Maud Kirk of Stockville, Mildred Conklin of New Raymer Colo. Flossie and Jesse at home. She leaves 4I grandchildren and IO great grandchildren; I living sister Mrs. Mildred Snider of Qrifino Idaho; 2 living brothers, A.C.Fretz of UnionTown Kansas and George Fretz of Comstock Nebr. She united with the Christian Church in I892 and was a faithful Christian all her life. She was a kind and loving mother and a wonderful neighbor,

A dear one from us now is gone
A voice we loved is stilled,
A place made vacant in our home
That never can be filled.

Mothers life on earth is ended,
Her troubles and cares are done.
The angels came and took her away
And we are left alone.

No not alone the Savior is with us
all the day, and he knows every heartache
And will guide our every way.
SURNAMES FRETZ and SMITH This record was compiled by Alberta Guthrie Covey. Information was taken from the family Bible which is in the possession of Enid Burley of McCook Nebraska at this date, Oct. 1977. Other information has been taken from census records and passenger lists of ships bringing settlers to America. Older members of the family now deceased have handed down the thought that there were three brothers, Surname Fretz who came to America from Germany.

(The following information is still left here because it came from Alberta's book; however new genealogy finds and updates are below: "I have found a list of passengers coming to America from Rotterdam in Oct. 1738 and another in 1753. Two Fretz males came on separate ships in 1738 and another came in 1753. It is sheer speculation to say they are the three brothers my folks spoke of, however, the dates that we have and know to be true bear out the fact that one of these men is a direct ancestor. Below is their names. Hanse Martin Frets age 22, signed on board the Billender T,aistleof Phila. From,Rotterdam, left Cowes England Oct. 3, 1738. When he signed off the ship and qualified he signed as Hanns Fretz. These people were called Palatines. He qualified Oct. 28, 1738. Hans George Fritz, 30 years of age came aboard the Elizabeth. He qualified Oct. 30, 1738. He signed as Hans George Fretz. Lodwick Fritz age 27, a passenger aboard the ship Brothers, from Rotterdam, left Cowes Englund -in Sept. 1753. When he qualified he signed Ludwig Fretz. The dates we have would bear out the fact one of these men is a direct ancestor, but at this time we cannot be certain, and if so, which one. Joseph Fretz' father, John was born in 1774, so George would most likely be the one. We have always been told we were of Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry on the Fretz side. The name George is a brother of Mary Ellett Fretz. That is the reason for thinking George over Martin!")

New Updates

Mary Ellet Fretz
(Picture of Mary Fretz Guthrie and Millie Snyder ~
Far Right Picture of Mary Fretz Guthrie)
Father: Issac S. Fretz
Mother: Mary Jane Smith

Issac S. Fretz
(picture bottom right)
Father: Jacob Fretz
Mother: Mary Swartz

Jacob Fretz
Father: Isaac Fretz
Mother: Veronica Kratz

Isaac Fretz
Father: Christian Meyer Fretz "Tinicum"
Mother: Barbara Kolb Oberholtzer

Christian Meyer Fretz "Tinicum"
Father: Johannes Fretz "Weaver"
Mother: Barbara Meyer

Johannes Fretz "Weaver"
Father: Johannes Fretz
Mother: Elizabeth Sara

Johannes Fretz
Father: Johannes Fretz
Mother: Anna Schwartz

Johannes Fretz
Father: Johannes Fretz
Mother: Barbara Wismer

Johannes Fretz
Father: Jacob Fretz
Mother: Maria Kolb

Jacob Fretz
Father: Jacob Fretz
Mother: Margaretha Kratz

Jacob Fratz
Father: Hans Fretz
Mother: Martha Witmer

Hans Fretz
Father: Jacob Fretz
Mother: Gretchen Offerman

Jacob Fretz
Father: Johannes Fretz
Mother: Drytken Schroder

Johannes Fretz
Father: Johannes (Frethe)Fretz
Mother Elsie

Genforum information:

I. Johannes (FRETHE) FRETZ m Elsie. d 1469 Lubeck Germany. , ship-builder, farmer. 5 children: Johannes, Nels, Ursula, Anna, Catharine.

II. Johannes FRETZ m Drytken SCHRODER 2 sons: Jacob, Johannes.

III. Jacob FRETZ b 04 Sep 1482d Aft Sep 1540). Bottcher, (cooper) m. 04 Nov 1518 Gretchen OFFERMAN, d/o Otto OFFERMAN, citizen of Weisenfels. children: Hans b 04 Seo 1519, Otto b 11 Aug 1520, Gretchen b 03 Jul 1821 dy. Jacob b 18 May 1822, Martin b 22 Feb 1523 and Twin, Johannes (Both dy) Henrich b 10 Jan 1524.Occ. Goldsmiths. Widow Gretchen m2 Jacob OBERHOLTZER.

IV Hans FRETZ b 04 Sep 1519 d 17 May 1590 09 May 1549m Martha WITMER, d/o Johannes. Res. Michelstadt, Hessen, moved to Darmstadt. Cloth weaver. 6 Ch: Wilhelm, Ruprecht, Klaus, Ludwig, Jacob Hiob (Job)and Martha.

V. Jacob FRETZ b 07 Mar 1550 d 07 Aug 1622. m 17 Oct 1587 Margaret KRATZ in the Swan In. Margaret d 12 Feb 1592, 3 ch: Jacob Jr., Margaret and Johannes. Jacob m2 Sophia Hinkel MERKLEL who had 14 yr old dau by m1 to Oswald MERKLE.

VI. Jacob FRETZ, Jr. b 23 Jul 1590 d d Dec 1630(Oldest son, he was 4 when his mother married Sophia.)m 1612 Maria KOLB, d/o Martin of Wolfstien, Rhine. Maria d 05 Jun 1632. 3 ch: Peter b 04 Mar 1613 in Frankenthal, Johannes, and Maria b 14 Oct 1617.

VII Johannes FRETZ b 07 FEb 1615 in Rhein Pfalx. m Barbara WISMER, d/o Martin (innkeeper) of Winden. Moved family to Karlsruhe 07 Oct 1647. Innkeeper. Barbara d 1702, aged 85 bur. Hagenau. Ch: Johannes, and Jacob b 17 Oct 1638 in Winden.

VIII. Johannes FRETZ b 09 Dec 1647 Winden, Rhein Pfalz d 07 Apr 1709 Hagenau, Alsace. m 09 Sep 1679 Anna SCHWARTZ, c/o Christian and Margareta (KICHLEIN) SCHWARTZ. Cloth weaver
Anna d 11 Oct 1714, aged 76. Living ch: Johannes, and Christian b 13 Feb 1684.

IX. Johannes FRETZ b 11 Jul 1680 in Hagenau, Alsace m 04 Nov 1702 Anna Maria GROSS, d/o innkeeper Abraham and Barbara (SCHLOSSER) GROSS. Ch: Johannes, Mark, Barbara, Christian , Abraham and Jacob (youngest son.)

Johannes, Christian and Mark all went to US and Barbara had also left home(according to Anna Maria's will, prepared in Sep 1729. Abraham had died. Everything was left to remaining son Jacob.

X. Immigrant "Weaver" John FRETZ b Hagenau, Alsace 02 Feb 1704. m Barbara MEYER, d/o Hans.

X. Immigrant Mark FRETZ b Hagenau, Alsace 11 Mar May 1705. Left Germany with his brothers, no futher record. Died at sea??

X. Immigrant "Tinicum" Christian FRETZ b Hagenau, Alsace 02 May 1709 .

X. Barbara FRETZ b Hagenau, Alsace 07 Jun 1706. Although her mother mentioned her as having left home, it is not certain whether she accompanied her brothers to America.

More information from Genforum

Barbara Fretz born 1740 was the daughter of Christian Tinicum Fretz born May 12, 1709 , Manheim Germany and Elizabeth. They lived on Tinicum Creek, on what is now known as Heaney's Mill. now Bedminster, on what is known as the Old Fretz Homestead.

The Fretz families were religious people, most attended Deep Run Mennonite church. The children were given Biblical names, and hence the duplication, and the need for nicknames for identification.

Most were farmers, and non-combatants in the Revolutionary War. They did supply grain and hay when requisitioned. Some of the grandsons did drive teams and wagons for Washington’s troops, but bore no arms.

Weaver John’s 2nd son, was Jacob, and Joseph (Big Joe) was Jacobs’ son. (Weaver’s grandson). We have no information regarding his nickname. Most of Jacob’s family migrated “West” to Ohio.

However, Jacob’s farm (plantation) reached to the Tohickon Creek. There was a fulling mill* at the confluence of the Tohickon and Haycock creeks, abutting Jacob’s land. The mill was run by another Joseph , known as “Fuller Joe”, also a grandson of Weaver John, but thru his 3rd son, Christian. (Christian and Jacob were brothers).

* Fulling mill- a facility to process cloth, to shrink and thicken (woolen cloth) by moistening, heating, and pressing.

Jacob Fretz, (son of Weaver John Fretz) was born in Bucks Co, PA. around 1732, he was married in 1755 to Catharine Naah. He was buried in Old mennonite graveyard in March 1808 Joseph was known as (BIG JOE) his son. His childrens name were Elizabeth, Abraham, John, Hannah, Barbra, Magdalena, Jacob, William, Joseph, and Isaac. William Fretz dob Oct. 22,1768 dod unknown, Joseph Fretz and known as Big Joe dob. Nov.10,1794 dod Dec.7,1854 and more..
1. John Fretz
2. Jacob "Big Joe" Fretz b: abt. 1732 in BUcks Cty, PA d: 1781 Burial: in the Old Memmonite Graveyard, at Deep Run
Married: Magdalena Catherine Nash abt: 1755. Her father: Willia Colley Nash, mother: Magdalena Hermans Godshalk( related to the submitter)